We like tha moon.
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Hm. I`ve been waiting for this to be posted for awhile! I think it might be Kreludor or something...
ReplyDeletebecause. :3
ReplyDelete'cause the moon of kreludor is neopia
ReplyDelete/n
I think it might be Kreludor because they needed for moon for something... I forget what it was. ;(
ReplyDeleteBy viewing the picture info, it says "03_sloth" interesting..
ReplyDeleteI can also make out an L, Maybe a V and Maybe a W..Could something be spelled in it? I find puzzles like this, and how many people will get this puzzle right, very odd.
Maybe perhaps Virtupets? Definitely something to do with space...
ReplyDeleteIm looking at the video called "We like tha moon" in youtube. But if that's the answer, well... it's kinda random :S
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody else find it weird how they used "tha" instead of "the"??
ReplyDeleteIt's a song...Sung bye the SpongMonkeys...Whether or not there is any relevance, that's for you to decide...
ReplyDeleteI doubt TNT would use something offsite.
ReplyDeleteIt asks why they like the moon not where it is
ReplyDeleteanagram?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the answer is on Kreludor? c:
ReplyDeleteI've also seen the lyrics to 'we like tha moon'.
But why should TNT make a LC about that? :D
This one has people stumped. I'll try 'Level up' because there's a rock L and a shadow V
ReplyDeleteWell, the moon is where they live, don't they? But I'm not sure which group of Neopians are referred to in this riddle. The part that bugs me the most is "tha" instead of "the". I think perhaps they're referring to Grundoes and that this is where they live. Kreludor IS the moon for Neopia.
ReplyDeletePretty sure it has to do with the song since the misspelling "tha" is mentioned in it.
ReplyDeleteI don't think TNT would ever do anything offsite.
ReplyDelete'Tha' could also be a trick of TNT. :/
ReplyDeletethis is a pic of Kreludor (TCG). the despecription is just Kreludor....what a silly name!
ReplyDeletenot sure of the relevance.
i googled (neopets we like tha moon) and got this link ntwriters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print... and found something that said...
ReplyDeleteNew Moon -> Gone With the Wind (This I like. =D)
and in another place it said...
WE LIKE THA MOON!
So could the 03_Sloth..
ReplyDeleteWhy would it have to do with a song?!? It's not going to be offsite! It's most Probably an anagram...
ReplyDeleteI got really annoyed with it and just answered coz.
ReplyDeletethe song has the word dirgibles in it who is also a TNT staff member
ReplyDeleteThe answer CANNOT be a single word answer. It's asking for a REASON why... I'm stumped.
ReplyDeleteWhat does L and V mean? Anyone got an idea?
ReplyDeleteI don't know tnt that well, but would they really make you go to all the trouble of actually looking at the source info of the image and watching a youtube video of 'we like tha moon'? Kids play this game and do they even know how to get the info of an image? and you're not allowed to post youtube on the boards. I think it's just in the image itself, maybe the 'tha' is a clue in some other way than the freaky potatoes that give me nightmares
ReplyDeletebut actually the answer must have been something to do with the picture, or?
ReplyDeletethere are no hints at all.
I think the suorce code sloth has something to do with it
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's a V it looks like it wants to be a W
ReplyDeleteI want to answer "coz it is close to us" so badly :P
ReplyDeleteThe picture itself is the Kreludor TCG... That's why I suggested something to do with Kreludor as the first post.
ReplyDeletepart of the source is sur_cards Mabye TGC?
ReplyDeleteI think the clues are the 'tha' and the picture. I don't think they would include the image if it wasn't a clue, unless they like throwing people off, which do they do? Duno cuz I don't play neopets anymore except to collect bank interest and play the LC. You can see neopia and the sun in the background too. And there's 4 craters with lava in them or something. is there lava on kreludor? something to do with orange grundos? air is 36% or whatever of normal quality? Bouncy? stars? evil fuzzles? Keeps the neopia more stable with its gravity pull? Just throwin out some stuff here, anyone else?
ReplyDeleteBecause it rocks! :D
ReplyDeletei can c a 'c' closed by the 'v'
ReplyDeleteI think that it is Dirigibles because he is the neopets programmer staff member, and Dirigibles is a word in the song "we like tha moon"
ReplyDeleteokay i just asked somebody who knows the answer, and he says it doesnt have to do with kreludor, and that everybody is digging way to deep into it
ReplyDeleteWhy would Dirigibles be an answer? The thing with this is that they're asking for a reason, not a single word answer.
ReplyDeleteKreludor . . . what a silly name!"
ReplyDeleteThe TCG writing at the bottom
i can see a number 4 too ( above the v ) it can be something like 'l... for visit' o.o
ReplyDeleteSomeone try putting the image into negative
ReplyDeletewell i did the user lookup on him, and he has 3rd place in the LC. It must be so boring having to be an admin of neopets for 10 whole years.. ugh wow
ReplyDeleteI think the answer might be as simple as "gravity" or something to do with it. The picture IS FROM the Kreludor TCG, but it does show Neopia in the background (which is mostly water).
ReplyDeleteOk I will try putting what I said ^^
ReplyDeleteI tried inverting the colors, but I see nothing interesting. ground is brown, sky is green/white, sun is black, neopia is white, black and pink. stars are black, crater things are green blue. the L has stripes on it and there's shadows on the ground, I can see something in the shape of an X but that's probably has nothing to do with it, and maybe a 4.
ReplyDeletei can remember reading up on the lost desert lost item thingy event they had and you had to invert an image color for that didn't you? I don't think they would do that again
How did your friend figure it out so fast?
ReplyDeleteIDK I need somemore help
ReplyDeletedont know, he told me you just know it or you dont know it
ReplyDeleteI'm so lost on this one.
ReplyDeletehttp://imageshack.us/f/824/111osq.png/ It's not negative but yeah...
ReplyDeleteask him what the answer is, Please! unless you want all the 2 mil for yourself >:(
ReplyDeleteCould it be as simple 'Home?' Because its our home- since they live on the moon?
ReplyDeletehe didnt tell me, he just said, it doesnt have to do with kreludor, and thats all he said he'd tell me,
ReplyDeleteif you click the image it'll make the image bigger... I stretched it.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone feel confident with one answer i'm stuck on what to choice
ReplyDeleteYou either know it or you don't???? That's a pathetic excuse! >:(
ReplyDeleteCuz its perty
ReplyDeleteThere's no puzzle to solve, math, or any clues this time.....TNT's making this rather hard.
ReplyDeletehey if u look at last weeks LC in the first coloumn and the fourth row, moon is spelled diagonally
ReplyDeleteLC solver u got anything?
ReplyDeleteI pasted the image twice and flipped one side and it looks like a grundo to me. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/lennyp.png/
ReplyDeleteTheres the pic if anyone wants to see
It's most likely an anagram. Start searching for answers with those letters.
ReplyDeletecoz it is close to us
ReplyDeleteWoah, that's pretty creepy Kat... but aren't we digging into this too deep, like the one guy said?Even if it looks like a grundo, which it does, how does that relate to the answer? How does looking at the source get us closer to the answer, or looking at a youtube video?? I'm stuck. Maybe you're right, maybe the answer is just 'grundo'.. but that doesn't make sense, that doesn't answer the question..
ReplyDeleteanswering, coz it is close to us , makes sense, but has neopets ever gone off site?
ReplyDeleteWe have an L, a V, maybe a W, maybe an X, and maybe a 4. I don't think we're going to get anything out of that. have they done anagrams in the past?
ReplyDeleteIf your going to post it's close to us or it's pretty or ANYTHING along those lines, don't so I don't have to scroll down farther D:<
ReplyDeleteMy answer is because Grundo's live there.
ReplyDeleteHey, I don't know if anyone here, (but me) does penny auctions, but DealDash is having a sale today. http://www.dealdash.com/
ReplyDeleteOh, oh, oh, that's definitely a clue! I looked up the lyrics to the youtube song.. I guess they ARE going off site.. "dirigibles or zeppelins
ReplyDeleteor lightbulbs" is the lyrics.. and when you go here http://www.neopets.com/userlookup.phtml?user=dirigibles the staff userlookup, look at his full name: Name: Dirigibles and Zeppelins and Lightbulbs! There's an L in the image, stands for Lightbulb? The L is capital in his name, but I don't see a D or Z anywhere..
k the guy told me its NOT an anagram
ReplyDeleteSo, maybe the answer really is, 'coz it is close to us' (also in the lyrics to the song). If it really is, that is preeety stupid
ReplyDeleteIt could be 'No gravity'. Think. Earlier someone said that it could be 'gravity'.
ReplyDelete"If your going to post it's close to us or it's pretty or ANYTHING along those lines, don't so I don't have to scroll down farther D:< "
ReplyDeleteIt's part of the lyrics to that song... and honestly you haven't done anything but complain and use irritating smilies, so why don't you quit posting ANYTHING so we don't have to read through your nonsense. :)
And also it's YOU'RE.... that irks me so badly.
http://www.neopets.com/userlookup.phtml?user=dirigibles
ReplyDeleteHe has a Starry Grundo as a pet. A clue?
:) is more irritating than D:< thankyouverymuch.
ReplyDeleteFor the person who has a friend who knows the answer:
ReplyDeleteI would be on my hands and knees. Begging for clues. xD
Maybe, maybe this is stupid but, maybe its "Coz dirgible lives theres" xD
Maybe they went offsite this time!
ReplyDeleteAlright, for everone to catch up, We KNOW it has something to do with the song and That guy's userlookup
ReplyDeleteim trying to get the answer from him but he's not my friend, i just neomailed him to ask him a question, im not allowed to ask for the answer
ReplyDeletecoz it is close to us!!
ReplyDeleteThey would never go offsite
ReplyDeleteif it was me, i would go with 'coz it is close to us', i'll try it and see if I get it
ReplyDeleteOver 4k people got the last LC correct...maybe this time they went offsite so that not so many people would get it correct.
ReplyDeleteyou don't think? it does seem rather simple if it's just the lyrics.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.neopets.com/~Topher4321
ReplyDeleteNot a zafara! HMMMMMM
yes!!!it is offsite, he told me!!!!!, i said
ReplyDelete"wait a minute, the answer is offsite ISNT IT!!!" i told him i already guessed,
I was thinking Coz Dirgible says it's close to us?
ReplyDeletei hope i get a gas candle. i don't even know what it does though :|
ReplyDeleteWhat about the people who've never heard of the song? (Me!)
ReplyDeleteOh, I thought it was your friend.
ReplyDeletePS, Ya'll don't fight. I swear, if you guys wanna fight, bring it out back, comment fights always end badly.
Some more things about the starry grundo on Dirgible's page: Its the only one with a description (.. name.. hates you), the page is for a zafara, not a grundo (all the other pages are right). Why doesn't dirgibles have the official TNT thing that says that this person is official? It's usually at the bottom in red.
yes! he told me that was the right answer!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteOKAY on to solving the mystery pic!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm going with "Coz dirigibles says its close to us"
ReplyDeleteLet's remember that this person that *says* they know the answer, doesn't actually mean that they do. It is what they presume to be the correct answer.
ReplyDeletewell, they led us on a merry trail from the 'tha' to the dirigible staff member to the connection with the zeppelins and lightbulbs, but really, you're right it was simple, because the lyrics tell you the answer right there, and the image apparently has nothing to do with it at all
ReplyDeletethey should have a super lenny connumdrum sometime that is like 100 trillion neopoints and it takes you through lots and lots of the most obscure clues and throw offs and takes hours to solve. that would be fun
Liar, you're not telling the truth. It has something to do with the petpage
ReplyDeletewhat was the right answer? That Dirigible says its close to us?
ReplyDeleteSorry if I sound like I'm complaining but why would they go offsite? I don't think they would do something like that and I would NEVER have thought of doing that...
ReplyDeleteI answered "It is close to us," about 15 minutes after it was put up. Let's hope that is the correct answer, because then I will get the trophy and avatar!
ReplyDeleteSorry if I sound like I'm complaining but why would they go offsite? I don't think they would do something like that and I would NEVER have thought of doing that...
ReplyDelete^^Maybe TNT expects some people to know the song and connect it to dirigibles' ul.
dude, 4000 people got the answer last week, cuz it was so easy, they HAD to make a hard one
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY.
ReplyDeleteBut why go off-site. Remember, kids play this game; they wouldn't know to go and look up the song.
ReplyDeleteSo what is the suspected answer, is it "Coz dirigibles says its close to us" or is it just "It's close to us" ?
ReplyDeleteJust take a guess. Nobody really knows how to word the answer. Go with your gut.
ReplyDeleteHey! I wanna ask whether is the prize for the Baby Paintbrush is given to the winner for the previous post?
ReplyDeleteI'm not done whith this yet, it has something to do with his grundo
ReplyDeleteYes, kids do play the game. But that has not stopped TNT from putting up ridiculous LC puzzles. If they only put up LCs that were easy enough for kids to solve, then everyone would get them and they wouldn't be worth doing. Take a look at some of the past LCs. They don't have to be kid-friendly lol.
ReplyDeletebut even the tnt staff connects himself to the song by making his full name part of the lyrics: Dirigibles and zeppelins
ReplyDeleteand lightbulbs! Check his page, it's there. any sensible person would realise the 'tha' is an obvious clue, so google the phrase, first thing that pops up is the video, they watch it, realize that dirigibles is a staff member, (as long as they are hardcore into NP and know all the staff member names), go to his user page as any person would, see his full name which verifies they are on the right track, look back to the lyrics, there it is, the answer, (I think), not guaranteeing that it is, I hope 'coz it is close to us'. My guess is that they just put the image in so the question looks longer/less boring/throw people off. Course I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.
Are we sure that dirigibles is a staff member? It doesn't have the official staff thing at the bottom of his UL.
ReplyDeleteYes, he is
ReplyDeleteDid I miss what the answer was...?
ReplyDeleteYou can guess cuz its close to us or something along those lines, but I think there is more to it ;)
ReplyDeleteDirigibles was lag spotted 6 days ago?
ReplyDeleteCome on, he's obviously a staff member. Look what it says at the very top, he has the power to unfreeze members, and his secret avatar thing shows all the staff members, AND he has 3rd place lenny conundrum, and his full name is the same as the lyrics, and the account is 10 years old. If you were to say he's not a staff, which I think he is, then he is at least famous because he's got third place in the whole lenny conundrum event.
ReplyDeleteI wish is neohome was on the moon, that would have been the answer
ReplyDeleteThird place is fairly easy to get o.o
ReplyDeleteAnd yeh, I'm pretty sure he's staff, he was in the AC Staff Tourny (I think) And his reference to the song in his name made me almost sure that the answer is "Coz it is close to us" . And I put that.
Yeah, that is what I put too. I don't see how it could be anything else....if it IS something else, then it must be extremely difficult to find out.
ReplyDeleteThird place LC trophy just requires you to get the question right regardless of placing right?
ReplyDeleteThird, you have to be within the 250 I think. And Gold is like first 50, and silver is next 50? I'm not sure.
ReplyDeleteAnd the more I think about it now the more confident I grow in my answer.
oh it does? lawl, I thought that trophy meant he actually had third place. Like, in the whole world, he was in third place, out of everyone. Kinda dumb.
ReplyDeleteLol that's alright, I thought that too once when I was new to Neo. I know alot of people who are all 1st place xD. I myself don't have a LC trophy yet :/
ReplyDeleteAn interesting bit of information from dirigible's AC history:
ReplyDeleteIn 2007, dirigibles joined LD June 4, right?
2008, he joined LD June 12. Perhaps the "8" in 2008 was added to June 4 to get June 12th?
And then on 2009, June 12 was subtracted 9 days to June 3. I think the pattern was lost at 2010, though. Any thoughts?
I doubt that this has anything to do with his AC. Like AC was never mentioned anywhere and when he joined LD in 2007, I doubt that this LC was even thought of back then.
ReplyDeleteGravity
ReplyDeleteIn the video it says we like the moon twice, with only one of them going we like "tha" moon, so could the answer be also: Tha moon is very useful everyone?
ReplyDeleteCould be that too, but "Coz it is close to us" was said first I still went for that answer. Btw.. The vids quite creepy :S
ReplyDeleteThe answer would have nothing to do with song lyrics. Dirigibles having his name changed is just a red herring/wink. Honestly the answer could be anything but making a pop reference isn't the point of the LCs. "What is six multiplied by nine?" "Oh, it's 54 actually. Never mind."
ReplyDelete^This.
ReplyDeleteIt is definitely 'coz it is close to us' because:
ReplyDeletedirigibles
internet memes - not the first time they used this
"tha" moon - what else?
I hope it is the song lyrics, just to prove you wrong....because clearly you think you know everything. Unless you could actually provide us with another direction to go in, I still stand by the song lyrics.
ReplyDeleteIt has to do with the Kreludor TCG card. ;)
ReplyDeleteCost me 300k to get the card so I'm not sharing the exact answer but at least u know not to enter the lyrics. Im keeping my card and hopefully Ill be one of the few with the answer and get way more than that NP worth.
ReplyDeleteSeriously? You are positive that if I buy that card then I will get the answer?
ReplyDeleteWell its not just BUYING the card.. That's all I'm going to say.
ReplyDeleteOkay- here is what the card says
ReplyDeleteTO play this car you need an air neopet. Basic neopets get +2 to all stats here. Players can't play any locations here. - might not be it tho.
So I think its about the air. gravity?
ReplyDeleteSo the answer may be" Because players can't play locations here.
ReplyDeleteor "because basic neopets get +2 stats"
ReplyDeleteyeah....hmmm.
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to buy the card to get that information. Google images. And it seems a pretty stupid answer to "Why?" But I don't doubt it has something to do with the TGC
ReplyDeletewhen I searched "kreludor" in the "search neopets" thing to the left on neopets, there came up 2 "kreludor (tcg)" cards. weird. furthermore, the set it belongs to is "Travels in Neopia" again, probably not important :/
ReplyDeleteIn the set, it is #69 and rarity "R"
ReplyDeleteI think this picture has to make up something inside it. Perhaps another picture? I kinda see a Grundo.. Can some other people use their eyes to this?
ReplyDeleteI think more attention should be put to the 03_sloth though
ReplyDeletebecause this is a tcg card, I doubt there are secret letters in the image
ReplyDeleteabout the 03_sloth... there is a tcg set called "return of dr.sloth" and card no.3 Is called "domination"
ReplyDeleteits description says: "I am ten times your size, I can crush you with my bare hands, and I have a laser pointed at you. Do you give up yet?"
ReplyDeleteWell I just can't wait for next Wednesday when we finally see the correct answer! lol. My brain is overheating!
ReplyDeleteI think I am starting to not like tha moon. lol. just kidding...
ReplyDeleteo-o
ReplyDeleteTNT has used difficult codes that can be solved only with offsite information. I don't think this would be any different from those. I entered with the The moon is very useful everyone, because it's the only one with the Tha in the lyrics.
ReplyDeleteDefiently the answer is "Coz it is close to us"
ReplyDeleteif you look at the top right you can see the rock and it kind of looks like a L and in the bottom right there is a shadow that kind of looks like a V turned slightly sideways. Maybe this means something?
ReplyDelete/\ Maybe something like LoVe :P
ReplyDeleteI realllllly dont think TNT would go offsite. I mean cmon kids play this game.. why would they make it offsite?
ReplyDeleteI *heart* sloth
ReplyDeleteLC isn't meant for kids. They are SUPER hard sometimes and are full of very difficult math problems that no kid can solve.
ReplyDeleteI think I found a picture in the image
ReplyDeletewell I am completley stumped so I sent in because we love sloth!!
ReplyDeleteI don't expect many people to get this right... Now that I look into the picture more the stars and neopia kind of form a triangle... it may be irrelevant, but still. I have a hunch it has something to with sloth and the spelling of tha instead of the is just a spelling error, TNT make a lot of those, I have screenies of them
I see another moon behind neopia in this pic, kinda scary to think about it :S
ReplyDeleteI'm a kid and i solved most of it. that means kids can be clever sometimes
ReplyDeleteFrom searching it looks like the actual title of the song is 'We like the moon'...'the' not 'tha'. So I'm not so sure it's related to the song.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait til next Wednesday for the real answer.
It's says "tha" in the middle of the song.
ReplyDeletethe answer is NOT coz its close to us, TNT is not allowed to go offsite, BECAUSE, that would be searching for answers on sites like this that gives away answers!
ReplyDeletewhen i searched google images with the picture (an extension available on google chrome) the only exact match that came up was some profile with a bunch of html codes for graphics and the one with the picture had to do with the return of sloth plot...i looked through all the plot comics but didn't find anything relevant to that specific picture but lots of stuff about kreludor, obviously
ReplyDeletehttp://www.neopets.com/~glundok that's where the graphic thing is
well it's not like TNT hasn't made an offsite reference before...
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure, but there might be a hint for the new LC on jellyneo.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.jellyneo.net/
A note from Dragona...:/
that's a reference to the plot, not the lenny conundrum.
ReplyDeletethe answer to lenny conundrum is : zafara
cuz we are spongmonkey??? any neopets species that look like the spongmonkeys???
ReplyDeleteWhy is the answer Zafara? That doesn't make sense :S
ReplyDeleteThere are 2 ways to look at this, take your pick:
ReplyDelete1. We like tha moon lyrics: dirigibles and zeppelins and lightbulbs, which is the exact name of the staff user dirigibles. Go to his lookup, click on the petpage of his grundo, and you see the banner is actually a zafara.
2. OR.. it was just the second line of the song:
We like tha moon
cause it is close to us
Either way, they went OFFsite.
You canNOT deny thsi
the answer is not "coz its close to us".
ReplyDeleteit's "coz it is close to us".
you need to be exact
Okay, what happened in 2003 with Dr. Sloth? Let's start there since half of us don't believe the song is the answer.
ReplyDeleteI think that's when Dr. Sloth let us take his loyalty test.
ReplyDeleteIt is also when the "Return of Dr. Sloth" tcg came out!
ReplyDeleteNeomessage from snarkie
ReplyDelete"Hi! Sorry, but we are not allowed to give out hints to the Lenny Conundrum! However, it MAY or may not be possible you need previous outside knowledge to answer some questions. Good luck!"
hehe
Hello all, i shall let you know that you are on the right track, well done for finding that neopets lookup with the starry grundo. that will help you alot.
ReplyDeleteGood Luck!
~J
Wow --- snarkie wrote you that. Cool!
ReplyDeleteUm...
Starry Grundo
Random Song
Dirigibles
Kreludor
Stars?
We can see the stars?
it is close to us
Gravity
Sloth - DR Sloth Plot?
Hmmmmm....
What if the answer is something about Dr Sloth and his control of the Grundos?
on the petpage: Topher4321 hates you.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the answer?
ReplyDeleteAnswer: Topher4321 hates you
ReplyDeleteTopher4321 hates you ?
ReplyDeletethank you
Even if it's not exactly tnt's behavior to go offsite, they still have a sense of humor. I mean, those rats were part of Quiznos commercials..
ReplyDeleteI don't see anything that says Topher4321 hates you... & That it's actually a Zafara has to be relevant.
ReplyDeleteDelma Harrence was a Zafara from Faerieland's AC team? & Topher4321's background's AC themed, but Lost Desert.. :s Any ideas?
ReplyDeleteIt says Topher4321 hates you at the bottom of his pet description.
ReplyDeleteI answered 'Coz it is close to us'
I really can't wait to see what the answer is, this one is tricky!
Maybe because it's made of cheese
ReplyDeleteBecause it's a tcg card I don't think that they would've hid anything in the picture. It most likely has to do with the song. I'm guessing it's either lyrics from the song or something to do with the petpage. I don't know if "Topher4321 hates you" is relevant or not.
ReplyDelete^ I agree with the above post.
ReplyDeleteThe meaning of the name Topher is "Christ Bearer"
ReplyDelete^yes, you are right. Good find! You are very smart ^_^
ReplyDeleteum.... um... you the ananymous one yoooooo stuuupiiid:x :D
ReplyDeleteWhat if it's a plan to rip out all the cheaters? Anyone who used a search engine answer is AUTO FROZEN. Serves you right cheaters
ReplyDeleteummm....your looking for answers by coming onto this site....hypocrite
ReplyDeleteWhen you look up lightbulb and dirigible and view their user lookups, neither has any neopets. Maybe the answer is "Because there are no neopets on it" ???
ReplyDeleteAlso, someone said that Dirigibles' grundo's pet lookup shows a zafara. It showed a grundo for me
ReplyDeleteReigus = pathetic hypocrite
ReplyDelete